08:20:08	 From David Nicholls : What is valued in healthcare?  What forms of capital exist in the field of physiotherapy?
08:26:51	 From bhanuramaswamy : Motivation?
08:34:41	 From filipmaric : Maybe a bit off topic, but is what we’re doing with diversity in physiotherapy at a professional level maybe just another way to further inclusion? And if this is the case, are there some problems with promoting diversity from the critique of inclusion presented here?
08:34:52	 From alisongerlach : Western healthcare is so value and culturally laden - where to begin!
08:36:06	 From alisongerlach : I wonder if Gail to speak to where an individual’s agency is addressed/included by Boudieu?
08:48:00	 From DawnLaptop : Do you think as physiotherapists we perpetuate the hierarchy of sport? What about the value of arts and music and culture for those who cannot participate in sports?
08:48:32	 From filipmaric : Nice! Gail 1 - Dave 0 :)
08:48:48	 From filipmaric : ‘Getting comfortable with leaky boundaries’
08:48:53	 From filipmaric : Love it :)
08:50:01	 From alisongerlach : Who gets to define a field? OK Gail just addressed this I think.
08:51:26	 From alisongerlach : I would question whether disability is viewed universally negatively - thinking about some Indigenous worldviews and wondering about the culturally roots of this Bourdieu
08:57:22	 From alisongerlach : Love your work Gail - using in my teaching on inclusion. Thanks Dave - I have to leave!
08:57:28	 From Dave Walton : I'll wonder aloud about the relative value of leaky boundaries when considering a field in relation to a professional discipline, vs. more defined boundaries informed by theory. My comment comes from a recent conversation around 'what exactly is physiotherapy?', arising out of a presentation of a new seat backrest with embedded speakers that can pass sound through them, resulting in both auditory and vibratory stimulation. An RCT presented last week revealed that people with fibromyalgia reported some degree of beneficial effects (the study part isn't important here). The question though, is: is a backrest with embedded speakers physiotherapy? In other words, is it worth having a conversation about where exactly the boundaries of PT are? My sense, and I may be wrong, is that without at least some degree of theoretical boundaries or frameworks, or at least making those explicit, almost anything outside of surgery COULD be PT if people are willing to argue hard enough for it.
08:57:32	 From David Nicholls : Bye Alison
08:59:06	 From filipmaric : Yes, agreed.
08:59:45	 From filipmaric : Unfortunately I have to go now, but thanks for another great presentation.
09:04:55	 From Michelle Kleiner : I would argue that without some level of "leakiness" that we are destined to stagnate, never to transform or evolve as the world evolves.
09:05:27	 From David Nicholls : Is there a parallel here in Dave’s comment about the definition of broad definition of occupation in Occupational Therapy?  What isn’t an occupation?  Is it everything?  Is anything ex-cluded by this definition?
09:06:09	 From Kirstin : I’d love to talk to you  in more depth at some time Dave. My Masters study focused on boundaries for physiotherapy practice. But in terms of Bourdieu, yes, PT is VERY socially defined.
09:06:28	 From AnneKinsella : Thank you for an amazing talk and forum! I have to sign off but look forward to continued conversations! So much to think about emerging from Gail’s talk!
09:06:36	 From David Nicholls : Bye Anne
09:06:38	 From Dave Walton : That would be great, thanks Kirstin
09:10:47	 From Aaron Marshall : It is great to hear this idea of not trying to include everyone in our world, but getting out into theirs and meeting them where they are (physically, socially etc). In New Zealand, our healthcare road map specifically wants health care to get out of the hospitals/facilities/clinics and meet people in their communities - it is referred to as “Closer to home”. It is great hearing your perspective Gail - it has helped me to see this strategy as so much more than just a “home visit” approach, but rather, thinking more about how we empower people (and what empowerment is for them) rather than just try to “include” people. I clearly have been taking a lot for granted (value-wise) for a long time!
09:11:18	 From Michelle Kleiner : Thanks Gail!
09:15:09	 From DawnLaptop : I would like to talk more with Gail about the authenticity of visual methods to represent the voices of those without a voice
09:16:53	 From bhanuramaswamy : I work a lot with groups of people (older, and with degenerative condition) both in exercise class and social situations, which is where my one word ‘motivation’ as capital came into mind. When hospital based, I was very judgemental about those with lack of motivation to participate in specific prescribed treatments, but outside of the hospital environment, am amazed at the motivation of people to involve themselves in social, political and spiritual ‘events’ that they use to motivate one another to finally participate in the rehabilitation. We are all responsible for the ‘motivating’ factor
09:17:24	 From Kirstin : Thank you very much Gail! A wonderfully engaging way of presenting a complex notion. Definite food for thought… thank you
09:17:36	 From David Nicholls : Thanks Kirstin
09:19:14	 From christine ha : Thank you so much Gail! I will definitely be connecting with you via email to ask some questions.
09:19:27	 From Dave Walton : Excellent session Gail, thanks for sharing. And Dave, thanks for arranging these sessions, what a great platform to pull our respective habitus's (is that the right plural? Habitii?) together :) Enjoy the rest of the day everyone!
09:19:57	 From David Nicholls : Thanks Dave
09:20:04	 From David Nicholls : Thanks Christine
09:21:18	 From DawnLaptop : Excellent food for thought, thank you Gail and Dave for organising, Happy Easter, Dawn Pickering 
09:21:23	 From Aaron Marshall : Awesome work guys! So much value in such a short time!